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// Discussing weird hobbies. Re-ordered for clarity. jpo: My current hobby is reading about tax law echarlie: Why? haicen: Probably to learn how legal tax evasion works haicen: But realistically, you either have enough money to hire someone to figure that out, or you don't have enough money for it to matter jpo: No. You can hire someone to figure out how much you owe, but I haven’t been able to find someone who'd be able to tell me how to change what I'm doing to minimize future taxes in the first place jpo: Such people give standard advice which may be good for most people, but I am not most people, and am trying to save way more than a typical American and retire early, which means my tax considerations are not standard, and "just max roth" doesn't necessarily make sense jpo: So the best way is of course to write a program in Haskell that expresses tax laws as a directed graph of money-type transformations, express the resulting graph as a matrix, express your desired outcome as a fitness function, reduce said matrix, and out pops optimal tax avoidance strategy jpo: Of course, nobody takes this approach, they just look at single choices in isolation, and so the overall macro-scale outcome is suboptimal because they aren’t considering everything holistically haicen: I was with you except the Haskell part lukas: oh what's this, a real world useful application of haskell?!?!? jpo: actually yes! ;)
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// ca. 2009 < hokietux> ah christ < hokietux> there is UML in this paper < crofton|work> hahahahahah < hokietux> most retarded 'language'. ever. < hokietux> allow me to demonstrate how the idea for UML was created < hokietux> 'HAY GUYZ I HAVE THIS AWESOME IDEA LETS STANDARDIZE FUCKING CLIP ART! FUCKING STICK FIGURES! AND MAKE ALL ENGINEERS USE THEM TO DESCRIBE IDEAS! FUCKING AWESOME WE R SO SMRT! HIGH FIVE!" < hokietux> and then they had a pizza party. < hokietuxz> this probably happened at UVA.
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21:15 <+pew> .urb ricing 21:15 <+Wadsworth> To rice, or to [soup up] a crappy car with the mistaken idea that type 'R' [stickers] and performance [yellow paint] makes it go faster. - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ricing 21:37 <+pconte> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 21:50 <+echarlie> lol 21:50 <+echarlie> I'm probably not coming; have homework and other stuff to do 21:50 <+pew> sorry I'll be busy using my new 4k monitor 21:50 <+pew> and headphones 21:50 <+pew> also hopefully making coffee tinctures 21:50 <+pew> cc kolhell 21:53 <+Southern_Gentleman> i am teaching class 22:01 <+kolhell> yum pew 22:01 <+kolhell> Also that's gonna be strong af XD 22:01 <+echarlie> I don't fucking understand why 22:02 <+kolhell> Lightly roast beans, grind, soak, then dilute with brewed (and mildly sweetened) espresso. I bet you could get something that equates to a shot of vodka and has 2 cups of coffee in it. 22:02 <+kolhell> That'd be like... fuck breakfast. 22:02 <+pew> oh no what have I done 22:02 <+kolhell> That and a banana and it's fucking go time lol
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19:12 <+echarlie> in the category of random shit I learnt from my safety trainings: apparently the romans used lead as a wine sweetener 19:17 <+Southern_Gentleman> so they died by lead poisoning one way or another 19:17 * pew calls dibs on echarlie's bike 19:18 <+pew> the road bike, specifically 19:18 <+echarlie> pew: what does that have to do with anything? 19:18 <+echarlie> besides, it's too big for you 19:18 <+pew> you drink wine 19:18 <+echarlie> I'm not roman 19:19 <+toocrazzzzy> lol 19:19 <+toocrazzzzy> wtf was that convo. 19:19 <+pew> you're not british either, that hasn't stopped you from speaking like them 19:19 <+echarlie> my question, too 19:19 <+echarlie> I don't speak like europeans; I just write like them 19:20 <+toocrazzzzy> I don't know which is worst. 19:20 <+echarlie> at least I don't use gaol as my prefered spelling of jail 19:21 <+haicen> Yeah. They used lead cups 19:21 <+pew> .ddg openbsd gaol 19:21 <+Wadsworth> pew: https://www.openbsd.org/goals.html 19:21 <+pew> .g openbsd gaol 19:21 <+Wadsworth> pew: https://man.openbsd.org/FreeBSD-11.1/jail.8
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14:13 <gig> i get so much shit at work for being the one guy who is still below drinking age 14:13 <gig> everyone here is a grad student in their mid-20s minimum, except for me 14:14 <pew> has alcohol ever touched ur lips 14:14 <gig> i drank moonshine when i was a kid 14:15 <marcusw> that's the most giggybyte thing I've ever heard
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// jkh loves dd, and tells us why (edited mildly for clarity) <jkh> dd has a long history... <jkh> and since I'm easily the oldest person on this channel right now, let me ruminate... <jkh> (my children will tell you that I ruminate a lot) <jkh> A long time ago there was the OS called OS/360 <jkh> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/360_and_successors <jkh> and God saw that it was god awful <jkh> and it was <jkh> We have bash/ksh/tcsh, on OS/360 that had JCL <jkh> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_Control_Language <jkh> and JCL was god awful too <jkh> if you look at (Yes everyone please actually click this link) the section on JCL under complexity <jkh> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_Control_Language#Complexity <jkh> You will see the JCL equivalent to linux's copy command "cp" <jkh> Here you will see the beginnings of the dd command <jkh> the thing that completely blows my mind about this JCL crap is---back when I first use (and last used; I only used it one fucking god awful time!!!) OS/360---the line where it says "DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE)," <jkh> This is from a newer version of OS/360. The one I used didn't have this. <jkh> Along with knowing *exactly* how many CYLinder's of output your FORTRAN program was going to create <jkh> note the "SPACE=(CYL,(40,5),RLSE)," line. This is exactly how many block of output your program is allowed to write. <jkh> The conversion from character strings to CYLinders is horrible enough... but!!! <jkh> The OS/360 machine I used, you had to go visit the troll in the basement. You asked him for some CYlinders. <jkh> He had this big book in front of him. He looked through it and started reading off numbers. <jkh> You copied those fucking numbers very very carefully. <jkh> They were the exact CYLinder location for the data you were going to write. <jkh> You put them in the DISP line like "DISP=(1223,8830,34,92020,3949230,939403,3881,040328)" <jkh> You get the idea. <jkh> And IF you should fuck up and type in the wrong fucking god damn fucking CYLinder number? <jkh> you would write over someone else's files. <jkh> This was 1979. <jkh> </rumination> <Southern_Gentleman> jkh, yes we know you are as old as Adam :) <jkh> Southern_Gentleman: you know I had an affair with Eve... <Southern_Gentleman> see i was a freshman in hs in 79 <jkh> Southern_Gentleman: you be as old as me then