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19:12 <+echarlie> in the category of random shit I learnt from my safety trainings: apparently the romans used lead as a wine sweetener 19:17 <+Southern_Gentleman> so they died by lead poisoning one way or another 19:17 * pew calls dibs on echarlie's bike 19:18 <+pew> the road bike, specifically 19:18 <+echarlie> pew: what does that have to do with anything? 19:18 <+echarlie> besides, it's too big for you 19:18 <+pew> you drink wine 19:18 <+echarlie> I'm not roman 19:19 <+toocrazzzzy> lol 19:19 <+toocrazzzzy> wtf was that convo. 19:19 <+pew> you're not british either, that hasn't stopped you from speaking like them 19:19 <+echarlie> my question, too 19:19 <+echarlie> I don't speak like europeans; I just write like them 19:20 <+toocrazzzzy> I don't know which is worst. 19:20 <+echarlie> at least I don't use gaol as my prefered spelling of jail 19:21 <+haicen> Yeah. They used lead cups 19:21 <+pew> .ddg openbsd gaol 19:21 <+Wadsworth> pew: https://www.openbsd.org/goals.html 19:21 <+pew> .g openbsd gaol 19:21 <+Wadsworth> pew: https://man.openbsd.org/FreeBSD-11.1/jail.8
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// ca. 2009 < hokietux> ah christ < hokietux> there is UML in this paper < crofton|work> hahahahahah < hokietux> most retarded 'language'. ever. < hokietux> allow me to demonstrate how the idea for UML was created < hokietux> 'HAY GUYZ I HAVE THIS AWESOME IDEA LETS STANDARDIZE FUCKING CLIP ART! FUCKING STICK FIGURES! AND MAKE ALL ENGINEERS USE THEM TO DESCRIBE IDEAS! FUCKING AWESOME WE R SO SMRT! HIGH FIVE!" < hokietux> and then they had a pizza party. < hokietuxz> this probably happened at UVA.
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// Discussing weird hobbies. Re-ordered for clarity. jpo: My current hobby is reading about tax law echarlie: Why? haicen: Probably to learn how legal tax evasion works haicen: But realistically, you either have enough money to hire someone to figure that out, or you don't have enough money for it to matter jpo: No. You can hire someone to figure out how much you owe, but I haven’t been able to find someone who'd be able to tell me how to change what I'm doing to minimize future taxes in the first place jpo: Such people give standard advice which may be good for most people, but I am not most people, and am trying to save way more than a typical American and retire early, which means my tax considerations are not standard, and "just max roth" doesn't necessarily make sense jpo: So the best way is of course to write a program in Haskell that expresses tax laws as a directed graph of money-type transformations, express the resulting graph as a matrix, express your desired outcome as a fitness function, reduce said matrix, and out pops optimal tax avoidance strategy jpo: Of course, nobody takes this approach, they just look at single choices in isolation, and so the overall macro-scale outcome is suboptimal because they aren’t considering everything holistically haicen: I was with you except the Haskell part lukas: oh what's this, a real world useful application of haskell?!?!? jpo: actually yes! ;)
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// VTCsec renamed to Cyber @ VT. VTLUUG is in uproar // Meatspace: Paul: Am I High? Eric: Are we collectively all high then? and can I have less of these drugs? // Cyberspace: Matt: Is it still run by feds? Eric: well, they don't realise that cyber w/out context means cybersex, so clearly Eric: I mean, I'm totally okay with supporting people and their fetishes. But you don't have to be *that* forthright about it Matt: How else would they meet people to cyber with? Paul: We need a LinuxVT Matt: <image: vtcsec.org "connection is not secure"> Still haven't setup TLS in 2021 Matt: I'm sorry what http://vtcsec.org/roles.html // site lists COO, CFO, etc. as organisational positions Lukas: I really wish I was in the room where a bunch of vtcsec officers decided to give themselves C-level executive titles for a fucking student org of all places.
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jpo: As much as I might find the extent of our society’s reliance on personal metal boxes on 4 wheels to be distasteful, having one’s own metal box does have undeniable utility. I went several hundred miles in someone else’s metal box with the check engine and BRAKE light on a flashing and blinking the whole time, through rain and that snow/ice/sleet/hail storm, and control of the vehicle was indeed lost. Mildly terrifying. Lots of highways with semis too. Having my own metal box without these real and present risks to life and limb seems overdue jpo: Traction control light (ABS not working) was also on. Along with a couple other lights. Only light that was any consolation was the “passenger airbag on” light
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"It was a cold evening when the VTLUUG meeting was in Torg. Our fearless leader at that time, The mutantmonkey, put on a video of the grandfather of all of us, Richard Stallman, eating an entity blessed with inumerable unix powers that our great grandfather located on his foot, thus making the evil Greek, who also helped destroy Europes economy, to leave the meeting. Peace was had after that."
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01:58:20 andreim | I'm not saying that it's 2 am but it's 2 am 01:58:28 andreim | and i don't want to sound racist but black people 01:58:39 andreim | and no offense but you are stupid as fuck 01:59:13 andreim | and not to mention what I'm just mentionning 01:59:15 flax | you sir, are a poet.
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cco3 | I've decided that if I ever right an autobiography, it will be totally factual, except that I will have the superpower to jump back in time 24 |hours and tell myself, "24 hours from now, you will be <insert implausible scenario that actually does come to pass>" cco3 | write* cco3 | So this future me will keep jumping back in time and telling me this crazy stuff cco3 | "24 hours from now, you will be totally lost in downtown Austin in a car you borrowed from a paranoid schizophrenic" cco3 | Stuff like that +telnoratti | You stole a paranoid schozophernic's car? cco3 | borrowed... cco3 | I was helping someone move, and he had the UHaul, and someone needed to drive his car to the UHaul place +telnoratti | he's paranoid schizophrenic I don't think he'd let you borrow cco3 | and I was the only one that could drive a stick cco3 | I guess his meds were working for him that day? +telnoratti | This story seems dubious cco3 | When I started up the car, it was one of those where you have to turn the key *just* right to get it to start cco3 | so after 5 minutes of struggling, I got it started, we rolled out of the driveway and I was following him cco3 | He starts to pull over at a gas station, and he's being pretty hesitant cco3 | I guess he doesn't know if the uhaul is too tall or he's having trouble seeing everything cco3 | so park and get out to help direct him cco3 | turns out he was just letting someone else in our party pass cco3 | I rush back in the car and try to start it cco3 | of course, I can't start it again cco3 | it takes me like 10 minutes to get the key to turn right cco3 | and this guy just doesn't notice that I'm not following him cco3 | luckily someone had given him my cellphone number and eventually he calls me and tries to direct me cco3 | but this is before GPS was everywhere, and I had only been in Austin for a month or so, and it's near midnight, and I have no idea where I am cco3 | After 30 minutes of driving around while trying to talk on a phone at midnight in an unfamiliar place, I finally made it there cco3 | but that was pretty stressful +telnoratti | you didn't know where you were goign so your solution was to just keep driving randomly? cco3 | telnoratti: yes cco3 | optimal algorithm cco3 | I don't think it'd be as bad now that I'm older, but back then I hadn't had a car for months and even driving was somewhat unfamiliar cco3 | I was so sure I was going to hit something and wreck his car